Thursday, October 28, 2010

Does Jesus require sinless perfection?

Hebrews 5:9And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;



John 14:15If ye love me, keep my commandments.



21He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.



22Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?



23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.



24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.



I John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.



4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.



5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.



Ok, so does this mean we have to live in sinless perfect or perfect obedience?



Does that mean that Christians have to live sinlessly?

That we have to obey His laws and commandments without any errors?



Because if we are saved or assured of it...that er...if the only saved are those who obey Him. Then if we sin, even just once, isn't that disobedience? So are we to obey perfectly? That is once we are saved if we sin even once, we have disobeyed, thus not being obedient, therefore not obeying, so thus not saved?



Ok so let's say a Christian gets up, reads the Bible, witnesses, prays, etc. But then later on this Christian is cooking and accidently burns him/herself. He/she curses and swears. This person disobeyed the command about filthy languages. So since that person didn't obey...does that mean that person is not saved and will go to Hell...even if this person immediately confesses and repents?



How can one keep obedience in check...that is where it is done out of love for Jesus..not fear of punishment?



Where it is done through the Power of His Holy Spirit...not done of flesh?



Is it possible to have sinless perfection?



When Jesus wants us to obey His commands, does He require total and complete perfection? That is, once we are saved if we even sin but once...we are doomed...with no hope?



If we had a child, and we told this child,



';Child, I want you to make your bed every morning.';



And such a child does that but at times doesnt make the bed. Will that child thus be rejected and cast out of the family for not being perfectly obedient? The child did obey...but not all the time...so thus not perfectly. For if he or she did obey perfectly, he or she would have made the bed all the time.



Shall this child be punished and rejected for not making the bed perfectly? Ok so the kid made it, but there are wrinkles and it isnt fully covered...but still made.



So to Christianize that...let's say Jesus told us to love one another. Well He did but er...



So let's say one Christian loves and loves...but then some Atheist annoys him or her and this person goes balistic and says all kind of unChristian things...and curses and condemns the person to Hell.



Ok so the person didnt perfectly obey the command...therefore didnt perfectly obey...so does this mean that person will go to hell?



So for those who dont want to read all that....



Jesus wants us to obey Him...does He want us to be sinlessly perfect obedience...is that the only obedience that will gain us heaven? And if Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.



Then how does one keep obedience out of love of God and done in the Spirit through His Power...and not done out of fear (terror or fear of punishment), of the flesh, and keep it so it isnt legalism?



So a person says...I will love this mean Atheist because I love Jesus and want to obey Him



Instead of...I have to love this annoying Atheist because if I dont God will send me to Hell for not being perfect and I better be perfectly obedient or God will be mad at me. I would rather ring his/her ever lovin' neck, but I guess I will have to love this Atheist. Ugh!



or I have to read my Bible all day and that is the only Book I am allowed and I cannot do anything fun or anything else. All day every day I must be on my knees and pray and worship and read the Bible. If I do anything else, save eat and relieve myself, and drink, then I am disobedient and will go to Hell.Does Jesus require sinless perfection?
If there is no god, it doesn't matter.



If there is a loving god, he will not punish you for trying to do good in this world to the best of your ability, regardless of your beliefs (even if you are an Atheist).



If there is a god who will punish people for eternity for a few fleeting errors in faith or works, he is not worthy of worship.Does Jesus require sinless perfection?
No.



Jesus expects us to endeavor for sinless perfection but understands when we occassionally fail and will forgive us when we ask.



With love in Christ.
No, I don't think so. He probably wants you to understand his teaching more than anything else.

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